#12 Channeling. Does magic exist? Energy of the astral world. Love and money. The Sacrifice of Jesus Christ
TOPIC 00:00 — The existence of magic and its nature
Irina claims that magic exists as the unexplored laws of the astral world. She distinguishes true spiritual laws from superstitions. The proof, she says, is the abundance of literature on magic. Separating the wheat from the chaff requires experience.
COMMENTARY
Spiritual: Magic is a reflection of astral laws given by the Creator. Books are but a faint hint of a reality accessible only to the pure spirit. Fears distort the truth.
Psychological: Belief in magic satisfies the need for control over chaos. The abundance of literature creates an illusion of proof through repetition (the illusion of truth effect).
Skeptical: The fact that books are written about magic does not imply its reality. Mistaking a topic's popularity for proof is a classic "argument from sales."
Scientific: The existence of "astral laws" has not been proven by science. The phenomenon of "magic" is explained by suggestion and the placebo effect. The psychophysiological effects of self-hypnosis are demonstrable. The rest lies outside the current paradigm.
TOPIC 02:26 — Self-hypnosis as the simplest form of magic
Irina gives an example: if you convince yourself an object is hot, touching it will cause a real burn. For ancients, this is magic; for psychologists, it's a not-fully-explained law of how the body works. Thus, every person manifests their innate magic.
COMMENTARY
Spiritual: Self-hypnosis is a gift from the Creator, allowing the spirit to influence the flesh. It is the first step towards conscious control of astral energy.
Psychological: This describes the classic nocebo effect and psychosomatic reaction. Expectation shapes real bodily experience through the autonomic nervous system.
Skeptical: A burn from imagined heat is a physiological fact, but calling it "magic" is a substitution of concepts. A mechanism is at work, not a supernatural force.
Scientific: Psychogenic fever and rashes have been scientifically proven. The mechanisms of the "imaginary burn" are studied by psychoneuroimmunology. A complete explanation for all such cases does not yet exist.
TOPIC 03:35 — Can you kill with magic?
You cannot kill directly with magic. The victim's belief in the sorcerer's power is what kills. The person themselves activates a self-destruction program: their immunity or heart fails. Doctors will record heart failure, but the true cause is the belief in being killed.
COMMENTARY
Spiritual: A true magician does not take a life — the person themselves signs their fear of dark forces. This is a lesson in responsibility for one's own faith.
Psychological: The "voodoo death" mechanism is known: an acute stress reaction, vagal syncope, and sudden death from a strong belief in a curse.
Skeptical: The claim is unfalsifiable — any death can be attributed to hidden belief. This is a convenient shield for magic against testing.
Scientific: "Sudden unexpected death" syndrome (e.g., among Australian aboriginals) has been documented. The mechanisms involve hyperactivation of the parasympathetic nervous system. The cause-and-effect link to "belief in a sorcerer" is ethically untestable.
TOPIC 06:27 — Why does the government allow the promotion of criminality?
Maxim explains: big money rules the world. The owners of money live at low vibrations, believe only in money, and feel like gods. It benefits them to destroy society (alcohol, pornography) because it's business. Convincing a wealthy person of God is nearly impossible.
COMMENTARY
Spiritual: Money is heavy energy, binding the spirit to the earth. Lack of belief in a higher power is voluntary darkness. Only an ego crisis can save such a person.
Psychological: This describes the phenomenon of "power without empathy" and moral dissociation. The rich indeed believe in God less often due to an illusion of self-sufficiency.
Skeptical: Reducing all problems to a conspiracy of the rich is an oversimplification. Many billionaire philanthropists believe in God. An anonymous "they" is an unscientific abstraction.
Scientific: Research (Piff, 2012) shows the upper class is less ethical and less empathetic, but correlation ≠ causation. The link "money = low vibrations" is not operationalizable.
TOPIC 08:58 — Are love and money incompatible?
The Shimorian claims a person full of love cannot hold onto large sums, because true love means forgetting oneself and giving everything to the poor. Hence, rich seekers of freedom would go into nature or monasteries. Maxim objects: love is projected both outward and inward. Without money, he couldn't conduct his teaching or share knowledge.
COMMENTARY
Spiritual: A saint does not need money, but a teacher in the world does. It is pride to think that poverty pleases God. Love includes the wise management of resources.
Psychological: This is the conflict between altruism and self-preservation. Maxim describes healthy narcissism, necessary for agency. The Shimorian presents an ideal of self-denial that can lead to burnout.
Skeptical: Historical examples (giving away property) are rare. Most priests and spiritual teachers were not destitute. The antithesis "love or money" is a false dilemma.
Scientific: Economic psychology knows the "money paradox": after $75,000, happiness grows slowly but does not decrease. Poverty has been proven to reduce cognitive resources necessary for helping others.
TAGS:
shimorian, magic, nocebo, self-hypnosis, money, love, power, psychosomatics, belief, maxim
Original Transcript (for reference)
00:00 Does magic exist and can it be used to kill another person?
Irina: Of course, magic exists. You can go into any bookstore and see how much literature there is on this subject. They can't write books about something that doesn't exist. Magic is the unstudied laws of the astral world for you. But, of course, there are many prejudices, various fears, superstitions, and the like, but there are also true spiritual laws and rules of astral safety. To separate one from the other, you need a lot of experience.
01:41 Magic is the energy of reflection of the astral world. People have known this since ancient times.
02:04 In religions, you can find traces of the magical activity of ancient people. You can check it. Each of you possesses magic.
02:26 Self-hypnosis is the simplest kind of magic. It is the conscious influence of thought on your physical and psychological state. If you convince yourself that an ordinary object has a high temperature and you touch it, then a real burn will appear on your skin. This is magic for you. For ancients, it's magic. For psychologists, it's a law of how your body works. But they haven't fully explained them yet.
03:35 You can kill with magic. But it's not magic that kills, but the person who believes in the killing and activates a self-destruction program. For example, if a magician, sorcerer, shaman, who is authoritative for people, makes it understood that he is killing someone with his magic, the one who believes it will kill themselves. They will activate a self-destruction program. Either their immune system will stop working, or even their cardiovascular system will cease to function. Your doctors, the medics, will only show cardiovascular failure during an autopsy. But it wasn't the sorcerer who killed, but faith in him.
04:53 Question from the Shimorian: As you know, any authority benefits from obedient and calm subordinates. So why do your power structures allow criminals to promote their ideology to society and youth, attracting them into their structures?
Maxim: What does that mean?
Shimorian: It means that you have permitted propaganda of a criminal lifestyle, and moreover, your government structures, which by their nature should not be interested in such propaganda, in fact do not hinder it.
06:27 Maxim answers the Shimorian's question. There is an answer to this question. Our world is largely ruled by money. And for money, we allow things to be done badly. That is, destroying our physiology, giving advertising for alcohol, giving advertising for pornography. Advertising is a business process. In most cases, if you have money, big money, very big money, you can afford to do almost anything you want. That's the policy of managing us. We are managed by money.
Shimorian: So, your answer is: those who have big money live on low vibrations of the spirit?
Maxim: Yes, and without faith. They absolutely don't care. They don't believe in anything. They only believe in money. And it's very difficult to convince a person with money that there is a God who is higher than them in level and egocentrism. In most cases, if a person has very big money, he understands that he can feel like a god here on Earth.
08:05 Shimorian: Is the issue of possessing money the same as the issue of possessing a personal weapon?
08:16 Maxim: Money is a weapon. For achieving many things. If we compare money with energy, then for a spiritual person, the energy of love is an opportunity to receive any benefits, as they see it... But if we take the energy of money, then a person who has money uses it to receive the same, as he sees it, benefits on a physiological level.
08:58 Shimorian: You understand well that a person who is filled with love will not be able to hold onto large amounts of money. Even if they have it. For one reason: true love, having money, will start spending it to help others, not thinking of itself. The essence of love is to forget oneself. Therefore, many people in ancient times who had wealth and wanted to be free from the material world would sell it, give it to the poorest, and go either into nature or into some religious institutions. This is a natural consequence of striving to free oneself from the power of money.
10:30 Money does have power over a person. Of course, you can use this energy for good purposes and more. But to do that, you need to be able to both love people and accumulate money.
11:14 These are completely different energies and combining them is quite difficult.
11:32 Maxim's question to the Shimorian. There was a phrase: The essence of love is to forget oneself. And for the first time in these contacts, I disagree with that. As I understand correctly, love is the energy that we project both into ourselves and out of ourselves. It turns out that I cannot forget myself, either in a divine sense or in a financial sense, because if I don't have money, I won't be able to project love in terms of giving knowledge, giving something else. I cannot forget myself and just drop the understanding that I need money. I think that in true faith, perhaps without materiality, the essence of love might be to forget oneself as a physiological nature, but we are not devoid of our physiological nature, we have our needs, we live in a society where money, unfortunately or fortunately, I don't know, has great power. And I believe that without money, forgetting myself, meaning not having money or giving it away, without the ability to manage money, I cannot conduct teaching.
13:24 Without money, I cannot convey information. Because I understand that in order for me to convey this kind of information, I have to earn money, spend my energy so that people can learn about it. Thus, I cannot do it without money.
