TOPIC 00:21 Irina's childhood and lack of belief in aliens
Irina grew up as a normal girl, didn't believe in the possibility of alien visits due to vast distances to stars. She allowed their existence somewhere far away, but not on Earth.
COMMENTARY
Spiritual: A child's soul is pure and open to miracles, but social stereotypes (distant stars = inaccessibility) already form limiting beliefs. Truth often comes through breaking down habitual worldviews.
Psychological: Typical cognitive dissonance: "this can't be because it's impossible." Age 13 is a period of active skepticism toward "fairy tales," making the subsequent experience even more contrasting.
Skeptical: The classic setup "I didn't believe, but it happened" strengthens the story's plausibility. The lack of prior interest reduces the likelihood of deliberate falsification.
Scientific: Science at that time claimed interstellar travel was impossible due to speed-of-light limitations. Currently, concepts of space-warping (Alcubierre) are mathematically possible, but technologically unprovable.
TOPIC 01:13 Encounter with a black triangle and three eyes
At age 13 (1999) in a village, Irina saw a horizontally hovering black triangle on three supports, next to five figures ~3 meters tall, no neck, with two yellow and one red eye. One introduced himself as Kirihiton and spoke Russian.
COMMENTARY
Spiritual: An encounter with other intelligence is an initiation. The triangle symbolizes ascension and the order of the universe. Kirihiton asks "Who are you?" — the beginning of self-knowledge through dialogue with the Other.
Psychological: Lack of fear and surprise instead of terror is an atypical response for a teenager. This may indicate a hypnotic state or deep trust that suppressed the psyche's defense mechanisms.
Skeptical: The "three eyes" detail matches widespread descriptions of "Grays" in ufology. Reliance on recognizable imagery (triangle, ramp) works to confirm reality but could also be a memory construct.
Scientific: Science has proven that 99% of UFO sightings have earthly explanations. The triangle effect in the sky is often linked to secret military aircraft (TR-3B), but the support legs and tactile contact fall outside the current paradigm.
TOPIC 06:20 Flight: 15 seconds of absence and vanishing door
Kirihiton said: "Count the time — exactly two minutes from now you'll be here." Inside the ship, the door vanished, becoming a wall. Irina sat on a chair, counted to herself to 15, and Kirihiton announced they had arrived.
COMMENTARY
Spiritual: The absence of physical strain indicates a "soft" travel technology — not acceleration, but space-folding or consciousness transfer. The vanishing door symbolizes a break from the previous reality.
Psychological: Counting to oneself is an attempt to maintain control over time. Subjective 15 seconds equaled two objective minutes on Earth, reminiscent of altered time perception in stressful states.
Skeptical: Discrepancy: she was told to count two minutes but only reached 15 seconds. Either she lost count, or time truly flowed differently. The entry/exit point is crucial for verification.
Scientific: General relativity allows time dilation at near-light speeds and in strong gravitational fields. But reaching a planet 150 light-years away in 15 seconds is impossible without exotic matter (unproven). The door-vanishing effect is scientifically unexplained.
TOPIC 09:00 Planet Daaral: atmosphere and city
Daytime, white sun with a violet tint, hot. Smells of sulfur oxide (safe concentration). Perfectly smooth asphalt, no trees, no grass. In the distance — black round tower-like structures about 20 stories high, no visible windows.
COMMENTARY
Spiritual: The absence of greenery and chaotic building layout reflect the collective consciousness of the Daaraleans, perhaps devoid of emotional attachment to natural forms. For them, beauty lies in functionality.
Psychological: The description of the city as sterile and monotonous suggests not a child's fantasy (who would paint bright colors), but rather a shocking reality. The lack of distinction between individuals heightens the feeling of alienation.
Skeptical: The "no windows" detail is logical: if they see in a different spectrum, windows are unnecessary. The sulfur smell and white sun indicate an atmosphere high in sulfur dioxide — hostile to humans, but "safe" only for a short time.
Scientific: Science has yet to prove the existence of exoplanets with sulfur-oxide atmospheres around F-class (white) stars. Only gas giants with similar components have been detected so far. A solid surface at such temperatures is unproven.
TOPIC 15:25 Description of the Daaraleans and the "store"
3 meters tall, smooth gray skin without hair or wrinkles, long thin fingers. Three eyes. All look identical. In the "store" — a high table under glass containing a plucked bird resembling an ostrich, and a black stick-flashlight.
COMMENTARY
Spiritual: The store as a place of exchange, but food as a bird carcass emphasizes the materialism of a civilization devoid of vegetation. The flashlight (light source) symbolizes knowledge they offer, but in measured doses.
Psychological: The visual indistinguishability of individuals and lack of clothing (except jumpsuits) may indicate a collective mind or deep suppression of individuality. For a 13-year-old girl, this would be frightening, yet she remains calm.
Skeptical: The convenient description "all look alike" is a standard device for describing aliens, eliminating the need for detailed individual features. The stick-flashlight as a laser is technology already known on Earth.
Scientific: Science has proven that such three-eyed binocular creatures on a sulfuric-acid planet are impossible (protein chemistry is unstable). Silicon-based biology is unproven but mathematically possible. It remains to be proven that sulfur oxide does not instantly destroy organic matter.
TOPIC 18:40 Rhombus-shaped coin and return home
Kirihiton showed a yellow, rhombus-shaped metal coin with writing composed of triangles and lines. He said the Daaraleans have one capital, no countries. Planet Daaral is 150 light-years from the Sun (constellation Cassiopeia). Return flight without counting, the door reappeared.
COMMENTARY
Spiritual: A single capital and absence of states represent a model of global unity that humanity only aspires to. The coin as a material artifact confirms contact, but he keeps it, not giving it away.
Psychological: The detail about "triangles and lines" on the coin is typical of pseudo-script. The lack of desire to take a souvenir reduces the likelihood of fabrication (contactees usually receive "proof").
Skeptical: The 150 light-year distance is a nice round number. The constellation Cassiopeia is real, but its stars range from 50 to 500 light-years away, so it can be adjusted. The coin stayed with Kirihiton — no evidence.
Scientific: Science has proven that no extraterrestrial artifact has been officially registered. It remains to be proven whether faster-than-light information transfer is impossible. The "shooting star departure" scene is a classic UFO phenomenon, physically unexplained.
TOPIC 19:50 Whistle and disappearance of the ship
Irina exited the ship at the same park spot, minutes (or two?) later. No people, no cars. Heard a whistle from behind, a gust of wind in her hair. She turned — no triangle, only a bright star flying for 1-2-3 seconds, then vanishing. She went home.
COMMENTARY
Spiritual: Whistle and wind are archetypal signs of the departure of a spirit or non-physical object. Returning to the exact point in space but with time distortion indicates that contact physics is non-linear.
Psychological: The absence of shock, attempt to check the time, or tell adults (immediately) is atypical for a teenager. Possibly post-hypnotic suggestion "not to remember" details, or natural dissociation.
Skeptical: Classic ending: the ship flies away like a star, without a sonic boom. Whistle and wind could be explained by ordinary atmospheric phenomena. No external witnesses, no physical traces on the ground.
Scientific: Science has proven that hypnosis can produce false memories. It has not been proven that bright moving points in the sky are always satellites or airplanes. It remains to be proven that control of space-time metrics exists.
Original transcript:
https://blog.cassiopeia.center/pervyy-kontakt-s-kirhitonom-s-planety-daraal
#2 First contact with Kirkhiton from planet Daraal: 1st conference in Voronezh
00:00 Introduction
Maxim: Let me introduce you to Irina, let her tell you a little about herself: who she is, what she does, and in general, how it all started - a sort of light story. Irin, please tell us.
00:21 Irina's Childhood
Irina: Greetings to everyone once again. I grew up as an ordinary girl, raised by my mother and grandmother. I didn't believe in aliens, in the sense that I thought someone might live near the stars, but that it's too far from there to visit us. I understood that perfectly well. I watched movies, read books, like any teenager. And I knew the stars are very far away, and it's impossible to reach them. So I thought, even if someone is there – I just allowed that possibility – they couldn't be here for me.
01:13 Encounter with the aliens
Irina: When I was 13, that was in '99. In the evening in July, I was playing – it was around 9 PM, it was getting dark – I was playing ball with kids near the park, and then we started to leave. They left, but I decided to walk a bit more. Then I walked around the park and decided to go home, but not through the main entrance, but through the back gate, which led out onto an unlit, dark street. I went out through this gate, walked down the street, the streetlights weren't on. It's a fairly large village – about five thousand people. And I noticed that no cars were passing by, I couldn't even hear people's voices or laughter – there was a kind of stillness. Then I was walking along the roadside, looked up, and saw: ahead of me stood a black triangle, but it wasn't vertical like a rocket, it was horizontal. It was standing on three supports, and next to it were five people, as I thought then, five dark figures. In this triangle there were white round windows, a door was open, and I could even see a staircase. I stopped and thought, "But there was nothing like this here during the day, I passed by here. What is it? Is some construction going on, or did they put up some kind of amusement ride?"
Then I got curious, thinking, "There are five people standing there – let me go up to them and ask what this triangle is." I went towards them. I approach, and the first thing I saw – they are much taller than people, about three meters tall. Dark figures, and they have no necks. The head connects like this (shows). And on the face are three eyes: two round yellow eyes and one slightly higher – red. I saw these figures, stopped, and couldn't understand what, who this was.
Question from the audience: Were you scared?
Irina: I was just surprised. And one of them asks me in Russian, with an ordinary voice, not telepathically, but just a voice, masculine, low, but quite human, in Russian he asks: "Who are you?" When I heard a human voice, I thought, maybe these are some people, maybe they're shooting a movie, who knows, actors in costumes, clearly men. I automatically asked, "And who are you?" He says, "I am Kirkhiton." I say, "And I am Irina." We introduced each other. He tells me, "Will you fly with us?" When he said "fly," I put together the triangle, the appearance of these people, and the word "fly" and realized that these were aliens. Who else could look like that and ask such questions? I say, "Where to?" He says, "To where we live." I say, "I can't fly with you, I need to go home, my mom is waiting for me, if I'm gone for too long…" Well, I wanted to see, but I understood it was very far away, where they might live, and if I'm gone too long, my mom will look for me. That's what I answered him. He tells me, "Time me – exactly in two minutes you will be right here." I really wanted to… I thought, if I'll be here in two minutes, then… I really want to see where they live. I tell him, "Okay, then I agree."
06:20 Flight on the alien ship
He silently turned and walked up the staircase into the triangle, I followed him, and those four, who had been silent the whole time, followed me. We entered the triangle, and the first thing I saw was white light, everywhere, like from these light bulbs (points to the ceiling).
Maxim: I wasn't ready. (Audience laughs)
Irina: There were no flashlights there. Just light. I deliberately looked: gray walls, a semicircular ceiling, a kind of grayish-dark. And I was still surprised how light could exist without flashlights, without bulbs? Then I entered, turned right. Along the wall stood five or six small chairs. They (the aliens) are three meters tall, and it seems the chairs should be for them, but then it would be hard for me to sit on them. But the chairs were for me, so I calmly sat on one of them, and those four stood opposite me. Above them were round windows, but they were high up, I couldn't see anything there. It was dark, that's all. And Kirkhiton went a little further, where the triangle ended, in this semicircle (shows). There was some kind of table, and lights were blinking, some buttons, but I didn't examine it. He approached and blocked the view. Before that, he said, "Sit down and count." I sat down and started counting to myself: "One, two…" I didn't feel anything special, I sat and counted. When I said "fifteen" to myself, he (Kirkhiton) came up to me again and said, "That's it, we've already arrived."
Question from the audience: How old were you?
Irina: Thirteen. When I came in and turned my head to where the door was, it had disappeared. I haven't told you that yet. Not that it closed, there wasn't even a crack left. It was just a wall. And when he said, "We've arrived," I turned my head again, and the door was there again. He walked through the door, I stood up and followed him.
09:00 On planet Daraal
We went out, and the first thing I saw was that it was daytime outside. There it was already dark, evening. I look – daytime. I looked up, saw that the sun was almost at its zenith, but it wasn't yellow, it was white (points to the ceiling), only with a slight purple tint. It was quite hot. I was wearing summer clothes, but it was still quite hot, and the air smelled like when you light a sulfur smoke bomb, or like matches left burning in a room for a long time. I looked around and saw it was the triangle, we were standing next to it. There was a flat round square, covered with asphalt, but so smooth like a table (points to the table in front of her), not a single bump.
Question from the audience: What planet was it? Were there trees, houses? What was it?
Irina: There were no trees there. I deliberately looked, everywhere was asphalt. Even when we walked across this square, there was a threshold, we stepped down from it and walked further along the road. I didn't see a single blade of grass there, not a single green tree, everything was just covered in asphalt. I looked a little to the right, I saw houses in the distance, but not in a line, they were standing randomly. It seemed to me they had about twenty floors from a distance. They were black, and no windows were visible, just some towers. And they weren't square like our houses, but round. We have water towers like that, only these were dark colored. And not made of brick, it was completely unclear what from. It was far away. We didn't approach them. We walked silently along this road, and suddenly I see, several beings the same as him (three-meter-tall ones with three eyes) coming towards us. They stopped next to us, and we stopped. They said something to him. They looked at me and said something to him. He answered them. Then I look at them, I look at him – if someone told me, turn away, then turn back and say where Kirkhiton is, I wouldn't be able to tell them apart. They were absolutely identical.
From the audience: Maybe, when we see, say, Chinese people, they all look the same to us.
Irina: Well, I don't know. If you put two Chinese people side by side, you can tell them apart.
Maxim: Actually, Irina will now tell us, and then we can ask questions, some clarifying points. What she is telling now is the beginning of our conversation, our dialogue. Right now she's just telling us how she met one of the "non-humans," one of the aliens. We are just limited by time. Those who don't have time right now and for whom this information doesn't resonate can calmly leave. Sometimes information is not yet needed by a person, that is, if you are not ready to listen further, you just get up and leave. This is only the beginning of what we will discuss further. Continue, Irin.
Question from the audience: If you were breathing there, that means there was oxygen?
Irina: Yes, there is oxygen there.
Question from the audience: What kind of planet is it?
Irina: This is planet Daraal. It is located in the constellation Cassiopeia. He (Kirkhiton) told me about that later.
Question from the audience: What is the planet's name?
Irina: DA-RA-AL.
Maxim: Constellation Cassiopeia.
Question from the audience: What language do they communicate in?
Irina: He spoke to me in Russian.
Question from the audience: And among themselves?
Irina: He said something, strange words. They only spoke a few words and then went back where we came from, and we walked straight ahead. I was breathing this air, but because of this smell, my eyes started to water a little, and my throat began to sting. I say to him, "Kirkhiton, what smells here?" I was only thirteen after all. And he tells me, "It's sulfur dioxide in the atmosphere, but its concentration is safe for you." Well, okay. We walked about twenty meters further and stopped near a square building, about two stories high. A long barrack-like building. Also windowless – dark. Two stories, yes. There was a door with a handle, he opened it and went in, I followed him and saw that it was another large room, like a hall, empty, only ahead stood a high table, taller than me, stretching across the whole room. Again light, and no lamps. There is a smell, but already very faint. And in that triangle, there was no smell at all when I entered it. But in the square one, there was. Kirkhiton said, "This is our store."
Question from the audience: Were they wearing clothes?
15:25 Description of the Daraalians
Irina: In the light, I got a good look at him: he was wearing a dark jumpsuit, but his face and hands were exposed. His skin was gray and smooth. Five fingers, but they are thin and long. Gray, smooth skin, without wrinkles, without anything, no hair anywhere. He says, "This is our store." We approached this table. He continues, "Our goods lie on it." I say, "But I can't see anything, it's too high."
16:08 Alien food
Kirkhiton came up behind me, lifted me under my arms, and says, "Look." There were actually many objects under glass or plastic. There were many objects there, but what I managed to see – there were only two objects. There lay a bird, a plucked bird, resembling our ostrich. It reminded me of how we sell chickens in our stores, but we sell them without heads and so on, but theirs was simply plucked, but with a head, with limbs, with feet, and its beak was very wide. Why I call it an ostrich: firstly, a long neck, but it was a bit shorter, and it was large. The beak was curved, the neck long, otherwise – a bird, resembling ours. And next to it, a little further away, lay a stick, a black one, like a long pencil. I saw these two objects, and he put me down. I say, "What is this lying here at your place?" He says, "This is our food, we eat this." "And what is this stick?" He then took it out, but not from there, but from himself – I didn't see any pockets on him – he just reached out his hand and produced an identical one. "And this is such a thing for us – a flashlight." He pressed something, and a beam came out of it, like our laser pointers, only the beam was brighter and white. A thin white beam. Even with this light (the light in the hall) it would be clearly visible. He put it away.
18:40 Alien money
Then from somewhere else he produced an object and says, "This is our coin." It wasn't round, but shaped like a rhombus, about like this (shows half a palm), even a bit bigger. Yellow colored. He gave it to me in my hand – it felt like some kind of metal.
Question from the audience: Heavy?
Irina: No, not heavy. I looked, something is written on it: some triangles, symbols, unclear. But he (Kirkhiton) showed me his alphabet and tried to teach me his language, but that was all later.
Maxim: Yes, I'll add a little. With Kirkhiton, when you met him at 13, when you flew back, he asked, "Will you be our contact person?" Right?
Irina: That was during the second contact.
Maxim: Ah, yes? Sorry then. I won't interrupt.
Irina: He gave me (the coin), there were some triangles, lines, some strange letters. I gave it back to him.
19:50 The flight back home
He says, "I told you, I'll bring you back home in two minutes. Let's go. I'll take you back." And while we were walking out and heading to the square where the triangle stood, I asked him along the way, "Where are we now?" He says, "We are now in the city of Kuuli, and this is the capital of Daraal." "What do you mean, the capital of Daraal?" (He answers) "Daraal is our planet." "What? – I say. – The capital of the entire planet?" (He answers) "Well, yes. We don't have countries. Only one capital." I say, "And where is that?" (He answers) "We are now in the constellation that from your planet is seen as the constellation Cassiopeia. 150 light-years from the Sun." We entered this triangle. Those four were no longer there. I sat down on the chair myself, no longer counting. I turned to the door – again it was closed and had disappeared. I looked around and thought, "Where could there be a crack? No, it's just a wall." He approached a console, pressed something there. I sat there, not counting anything anymore. A couple of minutes passed – a short time – he comes up and says, "That's it, you can go home. In the near future, I will come to you again, we will talk." He didn't say anything else during this contact. I stood up. The door was already open. I descended the staircase and saw that I was standing on the same square near the park. Again, no people, no cars. It was already quite dark. I didn't have a watch with me. I walked out, took a few steps, heard some kind of whistle behind me and a gust of wind in my hair. I felt it. I looked back – the triangle was gone, just a bright star was flying. 1, 2, 3 seconds, and it disappeared. The sky was starry. Well, I went home.
Published: July 24, 2019
Participants:
Irina Podzorova – contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations
Maxim Rusan – head of the "Cassiopeia" project
